Howard Jacobson on his new novel, British anti-Semitism and calling himself the ‘Jewish Jane Austen’

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( JTA) — Howard Jacobson is a funny writer. He has written various comedic romances, and many reporters said his 2010 Man Booker prize-winning work “The Finkler Question” was the first jocular notebook to acquire the reputable gift for decades.

But Jacobson, one of the most celebrated writers in the United Kingdom and an outspoken radical Zionist, has trouble detect much feeling in the present state of a nature is characterized by politics and social media.

“People don’t get irony, ” Jacobson, 77, said in a wide-ranging conversation with the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. “Because of the internet and Trump and Brexit and all that, we’re living in terribly non-ironical goes. The state of debate of the moment is you say something, and I saying anything back, and you say something back, and we are separate, and we brutally affirm one another.”

Nevertheless, discussion is a central part of his latest novel, “Live a Little, ” which was published this week. In this case, it’s conversation between Shimi and Beryl( at times announced “the Princess” ), two 90 -year-olds who( kind of) fallen in love. Shimi remembers everything, while Beryl is losing her memory.

Jacobson spoke about the tale, on the distres of being a British Jew in 2019, his self-definition as the “Jewish Jane Austen” and much more.

JTA: What brought you to this story of these elderly folks who develop a surprising alliance, maybe tale?

Jacobson: It’s quite inexplicable, truly. I ever do find where a journal comes from mysterious. You can draw some of these things, and some you can’t.

I suppose Shimi began as a more familiar illustration for me. He’s a man who’s getting older, lose the sorts of semi-comical ailments that beset subjects of that senility. Shame, I like writing about, I’m very interested in shame. It’s a theme that’s been honey to my center. I’ve always thought disgrace explains why I’m the kind of writer I am … And then I came dissatisfied with it accurately because it was familiar territory. And I laid[ Shimi] to one side and started to write some other things, and then a week or two later, I don’t know how, the Princess exactly appeared. She indeed did appear.

How does a reference precisely appear?

I’ve just come back from talking in Italy at the Mantova literary festival. I thought they would understand what I represented if I said she rose up from the sea of my thought like Botticelli’s Venus. Out of the wavings, she performed. Botticelli’s Venus loomed naked on the seashore, of course. Beryl did not: She sounded swathed in her scarves and things. She was just there and I can’t account for it . … Well, I presume my record of talking to women, and thinking about females, and thinking about the women I’ve liked most. I have a taste for women with disdainfulness, as I have been often the object of it. I still like it. I like the channel gals despise men.

Of all my people, she is now my favorite attribute. And I’m never going to write about anything else but 90 -year-old maids. From now on, that’s it. And maybe I’ve always been a 90 -year-old woman.

Do you think your novels, and maybe” Live a Little” including with regard to, are received differently in Britain and in the United Country?

I try not to read my evaluate because it’s not health. But my bride surpass a few good decisions by me. And I’ve just come back from Italy, where they really get it . … Talking to an Italian public is like talking to a Jewish audience. I were of the view that I was back talking to my Jewish audiences in North London or in Manchester; they smile at you and support you in the same way.

I’ll be very interested to see what Americans will construct of it because[ Beryl] does transgress some rules, which might be a bit more sacred in your country than they are in mine at the moment.

I don’t think anything is sacred in our country anymore. But maybe that’s just me.

Well, I say sacred in the feeling of rigidly devoted — sacred , no. Nothing’s sacred anymore … I’ve not been to America since Trump made over, but I bet you can feel it. I bet you can feel conversation is different. Here, people merely yell at one another all the time. It’s come all the way down to the street. People honk their motorcars more, cyclists drive at you, there’s a real aggressivenes in the air. It’s a very strange thing — pretty terrifying, actually, what’s happening here. What’s hard to know is whether has Brexit motived it or, much more likely, is Brexit simply a evidence of something?

What’s it like being Jewish in Britain today?

Yeah, we don’t know. Yes, we worry about whether Brexit will affect Jews. I know Jews who voted for Brexit and voted against it . … I’m painful with Jews who voted for Brexit. But some did.

There are reasons to worry that if this goes on, the country becomes even more restive, and as a consequence of Brexit — if and when it happens — there’s economic hardship. That’s never a good time for Jews, when there’s economic hardship, because you will ever find the old tropes of Jews and money are still alive and well. They don’t go away. The other epoch, beings invoked “Soros the banker.” And when people mention the word Soros, they don’t even have to say Jewish, it’s understated. I’m worried about that.

But most of all, and you know about all this, we’re worried about the Labour Party, which was once a residence for Jews.

So where do British Jews go?

It would be nice to be rooting for the opposition, but I can’t root for Jeremy Corbyn or for Jeremy Corbyn’s party. What’s the more terrible? This is something that all the Jews I know say: What’s more terrible, Boris Johnson and his mistrust or Jeremy Corbyn and his rigid anti-Semitic ideology? He doesn’t think he’s an anti-Semite. He doesn’t call himself as an anti-Semite, but he’s an anti-Semite. Everything he says, everything he does, all these likings, all the things he doesn’t notice. It’s anti-Semitism. So we can’t crave him to win.

I wouldn’t say it’s a perilous age for Jews, but it’s an anxious day for Jews.

Is the anti-Semitism people talk about in the U.K. as bad as it seems from the outside looking in?

Well, I represent, it’s not as though I got to get out onto the streets and dread for my life. I shouldn’t say that because I’m gonna do knifed today, but I don’t. I go around, I appear in public, I say things and I don’t get attacked for them. I’m not on Twitter, otherwise I might discover that people are abusing me roundly all the time. And there are homes, of course, where people are attacked. There are places where if you were an Orthodox-looking Jew, and you’ve got a kippah and you’ve got your tsitsis, then you could be attacked, and some are attacked.

It’s an scholastic feeling that’s inconveniencing. You never know how these things is removed from the opinion producers, the eggheads, the politicians, colleges and universities down into the mob. I think we can call them a rabble again; they’re behaving like a mob. The universities are hotbeds of that assemble of anti-Semitism which claims it isn’t anti-Semitism, and says it’s anti-Zionism, which is nonetheless anti-Semitism. Those who say “I’m an anti-Zionist, I’m not an anti-Semite, ” I will not admit that distinction. If they say “I don’t like Israel’s foreign policy, I don’t care for Netanyahu, ” fine. That’s not anti-Semitism.

To not see the requisite of Zionism, or to refuse to see the necessary of Zionism, and to think of it as an creed of inhumanity, you have to be an anti-Semite, you have to be uneducated and insensitive. Then once you’ve been shown the truth, to persist in the idea, as Corbyn does, that “Zionism is a racist endeavor” — that’s the utterance that Corbyn likes — I think that’s a deep anti-Semitic thing to say.

So as a writer, a Jewish writer, how do you process all this? How does it does enter your work? Do you try not to let it into your work?

It does enter my job. I mean, sometimes it penetrates my work overtly. In “The Finkler Question, ” it was out there honestly and talked about. I did write a extremely dismal fiction called “J, ” which did well in America, which took to its logical conclusion the non-Jewish longing to freeing the world of Jews. Which is sometimes been explicitly stated:[ to] imagine the world without Jews in it. That was a fairly windy panorama. Because I do feel now that anti-Semitism can’t go away.

As a Jewish writer, you’ve been called the “English Philip Roth, ” but you’ve sort of rebuked that and called yourself the “Jewish Jane Austen.” I time adoration this idea. I was wondering, does that mention come back to haunt you? I defend if you’re tired of hearing it by now.

No , no , no, it’s fine. People don’t paraphrase it back at me, I quote it back at them.

Can you expand on that a little?

It was something I addres spontaneously. It was at a literary fair, and somebody asked that same question, “you’re often talked about as the English Philip Roth, does that term recur you? ”

And I said, when I firstly started writing, there hadn’t been many male Jewish novelists in England at that time, still aren’t many, and they see that we’re funny and I prompted the English of Woody Allen and Philip Roth and Saul Bellow, and then that’s what I became called. I was called the English Phillip Roth because he’s a novelist, and I am, and there are similarities. And I thought that was fine. I took it as a praise; Philip Roth is a great writer. But I had not read Philip Roth and Saul Bellow and then originated myself a novelist in their likenes, or even influenced by them.

But then I went carried with it because it was said with every tale. And I just said yeah, I’m fed up with it! So I said, “I very think of myself as the Jewish Jane Austen, ” cause that’s a good joke, and people got it as a joke. But I represented a few cases things by it: One is that my education, I was not in the American Jewish tradition. My education was in the English novel. When I went on to become a lecturer for seven or eight years, it was the English novel I educated. It was Dickens and George Eliot and Jane Austen — they were the people that I adoration, and they still are. They were the influences on me. I was much more influenced by Jane Austen than I was by Philip Roth.

Shimi and The Princess talk a great deal about their childhoods. I was just wondering if your Jewish childhood or Jewish upbringing influences any of your attributes?

I suppose it does in the sense that I live permanently with my childhood, as does Shimi. I think that’s a awfully Jewish thing. It can be incapacitating; anything that’s always with you is incapacitating. It’s beneficent too, there’s a feeling that I’m always rethinking my childhood. The serious house ethical indebtedness that being Jewish establishes your whole subject matter. To that stage, whether I’m writing about Jews or not, the facts of the case that I’m Jewish determines the nature of the nature that I write.

This interview was abbreviated and revised for clarity.

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